Hawaiian Instructional Material ?

Bob Snelgrove · Post by **Bob Snelgrove** » 8 Oct 2001 12:58 pm

Hi

Looking for Hawaiian c6 6 or 8 string learning material. (Saw Bobby Black yesterday with a Hawaiian group

thx

bob

Andy Volk · Post by **Andy Volk** » 8 Oct 2001 2:43 pm

The big bucks answer to your question is Jerry Byrd's Book. This is pretty much the bible for many Hawaiian-style players. It consists of 60 lessons with back-up rhythm tracks on 2 cassettes. The book costs $95 + $10 shipping.

Jerry Byrd also has a VHS Instructional Video
Video tape for $54.95 + $ shipping. The technique he demonstrates is timeless. The tunes are however, a bit simplistic.

You can order from:
Scotty's Music
9535 Midland Blvd.,
St. Louis, MO 63114
Phone: (314)427-7794

You can get Hawaiian arrangements directly from Jerry. He has a spiral-bound 8 1/2" X 11" catalog. Prices per Arrangement run from $2.00 to $5 and there's a minimum order of ten arrangements.
Jerry Byrd
P.O. Box 15026
Honolulu, Hawaii 96815

Henry Allen has a course too. Here's a link: http://www.galaxymall.com/retail/steel_guitar/

The cheapo alternative is to do a LOT of listening to Jerry Byrd, Sol Ho'o'pii, Dick McIntire, Alan Akaka, Duke Ching, Billy Hew Len, David "Feets" Rogeres, David Kel'ii and many more.

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Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 8 Oct 2001 5:59 pm

Mel Bay has a couple of books you might want to check out.

THE ART OF HAWAIIAN GUITAR by Stacy Phillips (ISBN 1-56222-103-5)

BASIC C6 NONPEDAL LAP STEEL METHOD
by DeWitt Scott (ISBN 0-7866-1449-8)

Any music store can order them for you. They should be about $25 each. db

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Andy Volk · Post by **Andy Volk** » 9 Oct 2001 2:24 am

The Stacy Phillip's book comes with CD's that demonstrate the tunes; most are in "G" tuning. It shows up frequently on E-bay as do many old Hawaiian method books written for low bass "A" tuning (E,C#,A,E,C#,E). The Byrd book covers A, E, C#m, F#m, E13, B11th & C6th.

Fernando Fernandez · Post by **Fernando Fernandez** » 9 Oct 2001 9:29 am

My favourite hawaian instructional material is the Jerry Byrd's course that Andy says.
I have other hawaian instructional materials but in my opinion , the Jerry Byrd's book and video are the best I've found.

Good luck Bob

Mark van Allen · Post by **Mark van Allen** » 9 Oct 2001 10:05 pm

There is a great Bob Brozman video from Homespun with lots of good Hawaiian instruction. Unlike some of the other videos, Bob is a masterful player which is inspiring just to watch. I'll also highly recommend the J Byrd book. Enough stuff to keep you busy a long time, and at the cost for private lessons, it's actually a real bargain.

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Bob Snelgrove · Post by **Bob Snelgrove** » 10 Oct 2001 6:12 am

Mark

Do you know what tuning the Brozman video uses for the 4 songs that are taught on the video?

thx

Bob

Rick Aiello · Post by **Rick Aiello** » 10 Oct 2001 7:47 am

All of the above are excellent resources (I got them all).

It seems there are two "different camps" when it comes to Hawaiian steel. Bob Brozman and Stacey Phillips are disciples of the pre-electric style of Sol Hoopii - fast, open string, hammer-on, wild single string, triplet stuff.

The lush, beautifully harmonized, seductive, romantic.... sounds of the electric steel are demonstrated flawlessly by Jerry Byrd in all his materials.

Which of the above instruction materials is right for you really depends on which "camp" you favor. I don't think one lifetime is long enough to embrace both - although the Dick McIntire CD's I recently got show it was done ONCE

Post by **Brad Bechtel** » 10 Oct 2001 7:58 am

Bob Brozman's tuning is (bass to treble):
<h3>D G D G B D</h3>
That's a good video, by the way.

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Andy Volk · Post by **Andy Volk** » 10 Oct 2001 9:56 am

Well said, Rick.

Bob Stone · Post by **Bob Stone** » 10 Oct 2001 1:51 pm

I might add that Scotty also sells some C6th book/cassette tabs I found very useful when trying to change my brain from Dobro tuning to C6th. These tabs include Hawaiian tunes as well as country tunes played in a Hawaiian style.

Gary Anwyl · Post by **Gary Anwyl** » 10 Oct 2001 3:57 pm

I'm also interested in playing Hawaiian music on a C6 electric lap steel. I have the basics down, but I want to learn to add some harmonic sophistication to my playing.

It sounds like a few of you are familiar with the Jerry Byrd instructional material. I have a few questions.

Is the Jerry Byrd instructional video a good place to start? The description of the video on the Scotty's Music website is pretty sketchy. Does he use a C6 tuning in the video? Is is better to skip the video and just get the instruction book? Judging from the table of contents it contains more material than I need.

Bob Stone · Post by **Bob Stone** » 11 Oct 2001 5:23 am

Gary,

The video is worth having, but JB spends very little time on C6, as I recall. I haven't watched it in a long time.

Although expensive, JB's big steel guitar course book/tape set is well worth it. The C6th info alone is pretty much worth it. Also, JB has individual tab arrangements for several tunes for sale (see above) which provide plenty of challenges and opportunities to learn JBs approach. Just try the "Surprise Waltz," for example! If you are looking for "harmonic richness," JB has plenty.

All that said, I'm reminded of previous exchanges on this Forum regarding the "Hawaiianness" of JBs playing. But that's another story.

Good luck.

Jim Vogan · Post by **Jim Vogan** » 11 Oct 2001 6:17 am

One of Jerry Byrd's books showed up on Ebay this morning. I found it under Steel Guitar. Jim