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graham rodger
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boo wah?

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what do they mean by the boo-wah?or is it doo wah?
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Post by Roger Rettig »

Graham

It refers to the 'standard' 8th pedal on a D10 guitar, and it gives you an A#9 chord on the C neck.

The 'boo wah' is the sound of that bottom C string diving down to the low A as you hit the pedal.

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What Roger said. Image<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 15 August 2006 at 10:01 AM.]</p></FONT>
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Post by Roger Rettig »

PS:

I once heard Buddy Emmons refer to it as the 'bar-room' pedal!

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I think Buddy may have meant:

Barrrroooooom! pedal
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Post by Brint Hannay »

That's what Jeff Newman called it in one of his courses.
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Post by Roger Rettig »

That's what I meant, Doug - I just ran out of 'o's!

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Post by Lee Baucum »

And I think that doo-wah is the effect you get when you turn the tone control on the guitar back and forth real fast.
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Post by graham rodger »

cheers guys ill practise that one tomorrow,im just out of the bar room...is it used in a certain move?in conjunction with another pedal?same pedal on mine(my 4th) flattens 11 and sharpens 9?ill master this instrument one day with lots of help!!cheers graham Image
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Post by Doug Beaumier »

Like Lee said, boo-wah (doo-wah) also refers to the effect heard using the tone control on a guitar. Set the control on full-bass, pick a chord, and quickly rotate the control to treble to get the wah effect. This works well on 1950s and 60s guitars and steel guitars because the tone changes almost instantly from bass to treble on the older guitars.
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Doug-Yes, we did a lot of that in the 30's, 40's and 50's. Why don't a builder put one on top of the pedal steel now, where it can be used again?....al


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Post by Doug Beaumier »

I wish modern PSGs had a tone control. Maybe some of them do. My '76 Emmons does and I use that tone control often.

The quick-change tone controls (from bass to treble) are long gone. The stringmasters had them. My 1968 Telecaster has that, and it's very easy to get the boo-wah effect. Modern players prefer a broader sweep from bass to treble. Last week a friend of mine played my '68 Telecaster on a gig and he said the short sweep in the tone control drove him nuts. I love it.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 15 August 2006 at 10:39 PM.]</p></FONT>
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Post by Cliff Kane »

If one were to replace a tone control pot with a new pot, what specs would one look for for a pot with the short sweep/fast change from bass to treble?
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Post by Jussi Huhtakangas »

For doo wah tone effect, an audio taper pot, the value is not that critical but you will have to "match" a properly valued cap for the rapid tone change. I think Fender vol/tone pedals used 250K pots whereas Bigsby used 100K, don't remember the cap values now. Some guys use 1Meg pots on their Tele's and it works just as fine, but you just need a different valued cap with that.
For the trick and how it's done check Wesley Tuttle topic over at the music section and you'll see a Speedy West demonstration about the subject.
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Post by Erv Niehaus »

Pull up an old recording of "Steelin' the

Blues" by Jerry Byrd if you want to hear how

it's done. Image<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 16 August 2006 at 07:37 AM.]</p></FONT>
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Re: boo wah spring replacement inquiry?

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Would anyone happen to know if replacement springs are available for this pedal? Or happen to have the spring #'s?
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Re: boo wah?

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For an example of the sound check out Buddy Emmons playing Nightlife at 1min 15 sec.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j18oE23Dzlw