Why Internet recording (can) suck

[Gerald Menke]

Wow the first topic I have even been remotely interested in in I don't know how long. I always send the artist/producer a ref MP3, just so they can hear how the steel should line up, especially if there's no clear count in (for me to give them a count in for matching purposes).

With one exception, (that I am aware of) every artist who's used my tracks has lined things up just fine, my only gripe would be when they start doubling up the steel parts,making it sound like I played super busy. Or, if they asked for a dobro od also, putting the dobro and the steel in there, sometimes filling at the same time.

But you know, it ain't your project. As far as I am concerned they can reverse my parts and run them into a ring modulator as long as I get paid, and better yet they refer me to another artist.

Can't get too attached to your overdubs, in my VERY humble opinion.

Very best regards

Gerald

[Robby Springfield]

But you know, it ain't your project. As far as I am concerned they can reverse my parts and run them into a ring modulator as long as I get paid, and better yet they refer me to another artist.

I think your right. It is a work for hire deal. My disires have little relevance to the producer. Hopefully, you are "hired" because someone repects your abilities and opinions. But one thing to keep in mind is that we are really there to provide the producer with what they want. If I want control, I need to go get the paying clients and wear the P hat or record my own steel guitar record.

There have been many times when I did not agree with the production ideas, but I had to remind myself of what my job really is...to please the people I'm working for. I'll worry about protecting my reputation after I cash the check and get the next job.

[Michael Douchette]

Some of you guys are missing the rant point here. I have been doing studio work since '74, I understand the pay for hire and playing what I might not want to deal. That second part doesn't exist; if they want it, I want it, regardless. Let me attempt to clarify... again...

These folks sent me a track to play on. It was arranged with licks that were "pushed" (anticipating the beats), and I played those accordingly. After I sent them my part, they then RECUT the track, taking the pushes OUT on the other instruments (straightening out the time thing), then used my "pushed" track on top of the recut track. Hence, the part I played no longer fit the arrangement. Instead of contacting me and having me redo a straightened out part to match their new arrangement, they just went with what I sent them initially.

It is not a matter of "attachment to my parts" (pulEEZE) or the ability of the engineer to line up the parts properly. My complaint is about the apparent musical deafness of this band to realize, "Hey, that steel part sounds funny now."

Capice?

[Robby Springfield]

I understand what your saying Michael. Sounds like they would / should have wanted the parts to line up for thier own musical integrity. It makes no sense to you or me to leave it like that. But once again, you did what you should have done and what they did with it afterwords is no reflection on you. Sounds like you would have been glad to make it right if they would have given you the chance. Now the recording stands as is with what sounds like a mistake from you.

I also understand your frustration but this can and does happen even if you went to a studio and recorded live witht the band. If they make changes after you leave it's still the same kind of thing. The topic name just kind of throws a bad light on recording through the internet. While I agree with what you are meaning, I would respectfully disagree with the blanket statement that internet recording sucks.

[Michael Douchette]

Understood. Changed the thread title...

[Tony Prior]

Understood

Maybe this thread belongs in Dnt Undestand ! But

I do understand..

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[Joey Ace]

I understand...
We're dealing with a guy who takes pride in his work.