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Bill Groner
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I recently was invited to play along with 3 guys from church. They all play acoustic guitars and there is also a fiddle player. Between the four of them, I am having trouble hearing what I am playing. Sliding into the correct note is important playing steel, and I would like to be invited back! LOL Is there some small battery powered wireless device I can put in front of my amp and have an earphone in to hear my mistakes?


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I have since figured out a solution. I have one lapsteel with a hollow body. I have a Danelectro Honeytone Amp.
I also had a couple of Piezo's in my parts box. I mounted one with Bluetak to the top of my steel and plugged it in to the mini amp. I have a small earpiece and plugged that into the mini amp. I can now hear me in one ear and the rest of the guys in the other. It works nice. I ordered a wired piezo from Amazon with no pots and a 3' patch cord........I think it's going to work out fine.
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Currently own, 6 Groner-tone lap steels, one 1953 Alamo Lap steel, Roland Cube, Fender Champion 40
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Steve Cunningham
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Post by Steve Cunningham »

I’d suggest tilting your amp so it’s pointing right at your head , like a floor monitor. Place it strategically so it’s not pointing at the other guys.
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Post by Lloyd Graves »

Adding to that thought:

I'm no expert, but I find that an amp stand, which elevated the amp and angles it upwards, is a good investment.
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Post by Frank James Pracher »

Like Steve said...

A friend gave me an amp stand that tilts the amp up towards the player and it really helps.

Getting the amp up higher can help as well... I've used a chair before.
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Post by David Becker »

Someone suggested to me to both elevate my amp and put it behind me, pointed right towards me. I tried it, and I liked it. I could hear myself much better, and the same sound was headed (pun intended) out to the audience.

Have a great time, Bill!
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Post by Lloyd Graves »

David Becker wrote:Someone suggested to me to both elevate my amp and put it behind me, pointed right towards me. I tried it, and I liked it. I could hear myself much better, and the same sound was headed (pun intended) out to the audience.

Have a great time, Bill!
I got that same advice from a trusted musician friend, but he added that the amp will work better for me if placed on my left side. Does anyone else find that to be true? (I haven't ever tried the right side, so I wouldn't know. I just trusted my friend.)
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Post by Paul Mageau »

If your amp has an effects send output you are not using, you could attach a headphone amp to that and use in ear monitors. Perhaps something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Neoteck-Headphon ... B08FQZT1F9

This one probably has less latency than a Bluetooth setup

https://a.co/d/3Bo5sQZ
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Lloyd, maybe?? and I don't know your situation....if you do the majority of the driving and your wife is along and sitting on the passenger side of the car.......you might have some hearing loss in your right ear. Move to the UK and see if you go totally deaf. I hope you all know I'm kidding around.
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This is a picture of the lapsteel I am going to use for the two amps. It is a hollow body and makes modifying it an easy task. I am making it sort of a time capsule. While it certainly isn't a Rick stuffed with 1940's newspaper it will be, when I'm dead and gone a surprise to whoever posses it, and takes off the back of the body. I have picture of JR BROWN signing it, and also ticket stubs from an Asleep at the Wheel concert enclosed.
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Post by Rich Arnold »

I like my amp behind me and to the left, tilted up and not leaning against a wall.