Sarno, Black Box Trade?
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Jeffery Mercer
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Sarno, Black Box Trade?
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Larry Dering
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Jeffrey, it's a tube driven buffer with a variable load control. The main purpose is to drive your cables to maintain the sound quality (highs) of the guitar pickup. Because it's a tube device it offers a sweetness to the tone. That said you may not notice a huge difference in tone without it. The Suttle difference may not enhance your tone like you expect. What amplifier are you using?
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Jeffery Mercer
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I purchased The very 1st Boss 2-12 100 Watt amp when they first came out, because of there reputation with quality Pedals, I loved the fact it came with “Reverb & Delay” it’s actually a pretty good amplifier…
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Larry Dering
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I have a Boss Katana MKII 100 watt as one of my steel amps. It's not bad but not my favorite. Have you used the Boss Tone Studio? I believe one or more forum members have added their settings to the Tone Studio for download. You should try some of those before adding more things in the signal path. I have tweaked mine a good deal after trying several pedals both in front and to the return loop of this amp. None of the additional pedals enhanced the tone for me, including the black box.
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David Wren
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I used Brad's Black Box for years. Best way I have of describing the change in tone... it sounds like your steel does the first day you put on new strings 
When I got the Milkman "The Amp", I sold my black box. Using tube driven amps, it seems lessens the impact of the Black Box.... but it is a quality piece of electronics, like all of Brad's products!
When I got the Milkman "The Amp", I sold my black box. Using tube driven amps, it seems lessens the impact of the Black Box.... but it is a quality piece of electronics, like all of Brad's products!
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'25 Williams U12, 7 & 7; '96 Carter U12,7X7; '70 MSA D10, 5 & 7; 1936 7 string National; Line 6 HX Stomp; P2P "Bad Dog amp/ PF 350 12"; Quilter TT-15/TB202; Quilter "Steelaire"; DV Mark "GH 250"with 15" 1501 BW; Boss "Katana" 100 Head w/Line 6 Cab; Telonics VP; 1951 Fender Dual Professional; prototype of Webb 6-14 E amplifier, with Telonics 15" speaker, and Webb extension cab with 8 ohm JBL E-130.
'25 Williams U12, 7 & 7; '96 Carter U12,7X7; '70 MSA D10, 5 & 7; 1936 7 string National; Line 6 HX Stomp; P2P "Bad Dog amp/ PF 350 12"; Quilter TT-15/TB202; Quilter "Steelaire"; DV Mark "GH 250"with 15" 1501 BW; Boss "Katana" 100 Head w/Line 6 Cab; Telonics VP; 1951 Fender Dual Professional; prototype of Webb 6-14 E amplifier, with Telonics 15" speaker, and Webb extension cab with 8 ohm JBL E-130.
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Jeffery Mercer
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Thanks you you both!
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Howard Parker
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Jeffery Mercer
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You got it!
To be honest I think (in my personal opinion) the best amp I’ve heard for Pedal Steel guitars falls between a Fender Twin Reverb And a Webb 6-14E, and again the Fender Deluxe Reverb.
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Larry Dering
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Jeffrey, there is several YouTube videos showing the Katana 100 and pedal steel and they sound fantastic. Leo Grassi uses the Katana and a Stage One pedal steel with Joshua Hedley and it's awesome. Check out the videos then decide. I have a Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue and for me I never use it for pedal steel. Not at all a sound or the headroom I desire. My Hot Rod deluxe is much better.
https://youtu.be/0idA6Sckalg
https://youtu.be/0idA6Sckalg