Where are all the "Star" Sho-Buds

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 20 Sep 2015 8:16 pm

I'm curious to know if any of us forumites have possession of any of the old "Star" Sho-Buds. For example, Lloyd Green's "Lightning Bolt" on loan to the Country Music Hall of Fame. Buddy's old "Bud" is in The Country Music HOF. Pete's "Old Goldie" in MHOF. But where are some of the others? Like Lloyd's black permanent, Jimmy Day's "Blue Darlin's" and his "Black Widow". Where are all those Buddy Charlton Buds. The Walter Haynes and numerous Hal Rugg Buds. What about Weldon's "Once A Day" permanent. Curly Chalker's Baldwin crossovers. And so many more. If you have a Star Sho-Bud let's see it.
I have Cecil Johnson's 68 perm that he played with Little Jimmy Dickens and Tammy Wynette. Soon to be totally restored. A good one to start the thread.

Dyke Corson · Post by **Dyke Corson** » 20 Sep 2015 8:42 pm

I saw Curly Chalker's Big Hits on Steel Sho-Bud at a steel show near Chicago two years ago. TC Furlong would know who owns that one.

Skip Edwards · Post by **Skip Edwards** » 20 Sep 2015 9:34 pm

Chris Lawrence has Hal Rugg's Permanent out here in LA.

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 20 Sep 2015 9:59 pm

I did own Bill Johnson's wraparound with which he recorded "The Shoe Goes On the Other Foot Tonight," a late 60's hit for Marty Robbins. Bill played a very cool solo on that guitar. It is now the prized possession of a good friend and major artist in the Texas country music scene.

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 20 Sep 2015 10:26 pm

Skip, I actually did some work on that Hal guitar when it was being built. Filing parts, cutting rod material and other little jobs. But I got to help and learn. Not bad for a 12 year old kid.Thanks for the picture.

Herb S. Im just looking for the Buds on this thread. The Emmons guitars will be in a different one.

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 22 Sep 2015 7:33 am

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 22 Sep 2015 11:51 am

This may be a hard request to fill. I'm sure that over the years, the guitars in question may have been sold several times, and the story attached to that guitar may have fallen by the wayside. They may have ended up in the hands of non-forum members, or owners who have since died, and the story died with them.

I'm really hoping that is not the case, and we will see them pop up here.

Mike Wilkerson · Post by **Mike Wilkerson** » 22 Sep 2015 5:37 pm

Bump for Dumplin to keep this thread going... Slim

J R Rose · Post by **J R Rose** » 22 Sep 2015 5:57 pm

Where are all the greats and not so great steels. Their has to be hundreds of them in someones closet and under the bed. Or as Richard said someone brought them and passed on and the family did not know what they had. But where are they?? J.R.

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 23 Sep 2015 12:20 pm

Here are a couple of Buddy's. The first one is in the CMHOF.

Wonder where this one is?

Jerry Jones · Post by **Jerry Jones** » 23 Sep 2015 2:20 pm

And these Buds too.

B. Greg Jones · Post by **B. Greg Jones** » 23 Sep 2015 2:38 pm

Years ago, the late Ed Naylor had Hal Rugg's keyless singleneck and also Jeff Newman's D-12 fingertip with the state of Texas inlaid in the front apron. I remember the endplates were chrome plated and the chrome was peeling off. Don't know if he ever sold them or not, but he had em!!!!

Jerry Hedge · Post by **Jerry Hedge** » 23 Sep 2015 4:28 pm

B. Greg Jones wrote:Years ago, the late Ed Naylor had Hal Rugg's keyless singleneck and also Jeff Newman's D-12 fingertip with the state of Texas inlaid in the front apron. I remember the endplates were chrome plated and the chrome was peeling off. Don't know if he ever sold them or not, but he had em!!!!

I own the Hooper Case for Jeff's D-12.

Ricky Davis · Post by **Ricky Davis** » 23 Sep 2015 5:08 pm

Here's the real Original Blue Darlin Sho~Bud Permanent that Jimmy recorded all that great stuff with including Johnny Bush first album with Farewell Party on it>

Kevin Owens owns this famous Blue Darlin Sho~bud.
Here is me playing it in a Dale Watson song years ago and that is the owner of it playing Piano in the video: Kevin Owens.
https://youtu.be/XWKqLOaprgw

robert kramer · Post by **robert kramer** » 23 Sep 2015 6:19 pm

Digging this thread. One of the great American manufacturing companies. Here are some more Sho-Buds to add to the list.

Lloyd Green Permanent "Heart Guitar'

Lloyd Green Rack & Barrel - First guitar to be converted to a LDG type guitar.

Sho-Bud Professional (Possibly the guitar Emmons played on "Two Aces Back to Back")

Jerry Jones · Post by **Jerry Jones** » 23 Sep 2015 7:13 pm

Here's a better shot of Lloyd's Baldwin before conversion.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 23 Sep 2015 7:58 pm

These pictures are great, but wasn't the thread about WHO OWNS the great, famous steel guitars now?

Johnny Cox · Post by **Johnny Cox** » 23 Sep 2015 10:10 pm

Ricky D. The guitar that Kevin has was one of the four black guitars that Shot built for Lloyd, Jimmy Day, Pete Drake and one other. Each guitar had one pearl inlaid card shape.
Lloyds had a heart. I think Jimmys was the spade. Petes I belive was the club.
Jimmy's was black until someone bought it and refinished it blue.

This is the first "Blue Darlin"

Bobby Burns · Post by **Bobby Burns** » 24 Sep 2015 4:55 am

Is that Johnny Paycheck on the bass?

Bent Romnes · Post by **Bent Romnes** » 24 Sep 2015 9:34 am

Hi Bent,
May I ask a small favor of you? Please post this for me. , Johnny Cox has posted a thread in the "Pedal Steel" section, "Where are all the Star-Buds?"

Thanks,
Lloyd

In his opening post Johnny has a small, but important to me and those who'd like to see it, error concerning my Fingertip Sho-Bud.
He has it listed as being on exhibit in the Musicians Hall of Fame. This is incorrect. I have nothing in that museum.
The Fingertip, owned by Gary Boyd of Pearsall, Texas, is on loan by Gary for about two years at the Country Music Hall of Fame for their major exhibit, "Dylan, Cash and the Nashville Cats".
Lloyd Green

Dustin Rigsby · Post by **Dustin Rigsby** » 24 Sep 2015 12:37 pm

Now that's a coveted pen pal,Bent ! Thank you Lloyd for the clarification .

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 24 Sep 2015 3:55 pm

Bobby Burns wrote:Is that Johnny Paycheck on the bass?

Well, yes...but back then he was Donnie Lytle, songwriter and bassman. He changed his name to Johnny Paycheck around 1964.

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 24 Sep 2015 4:22 pm

when was he donnie young, then?

J R Rose · Post by **J R Rose** » 24 Sep 2015 6:02 pm

Chris, I think the story is that he, Donnie Young &
Darrell McCall left Ohio together and went to Nashville. I can't remember the year right now. Maybe some else does. J.R.

Dustin Rigsby · Post by **Dustin Rigsby** » 25 Sep 2015 2:56 am

J R Rose wrote:Chris, I think the story is that he, Donnie Young &
Darrell McCall left Ohio together and went to Nashville. I can't remember the year right now. Maybe some else does. J.R.

No.....Donnie Lytle changed his name to Donnie Young due to his admiration for Farron Young. During his time with Jones,he changed his name to Johnny Paycheck,after the boxer of a similar name. He later legally changed his name to Johnny Paycheck,according to his bio. His son still lives in Ohio,and runs the website I believe....

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Correction by Lloyd Green