Recording without an amp

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Larry Bressington
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Recording without an amp

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1) Do you Mic an amp? If not;

2)What do you use to play through ''before'' the Console?
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Jack Stoner
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I do most of my steel recording direct using a POD XT or a POD X3. I have one preamp program that I mainly use.

I use a Roland Octa-Capture and Sonar X2 64 bit Professional DAW software
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I use a Lemay Preamp thru a Lexicon PCM 96 ( an MX400 works ok too )into one channel of the board, then the dry steel (out of the Lemay) into a second channel on the board, then in the DAW I create an aux channel and combine the two. You could do the same on the board (analog) and record that signal.
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I use a Lemay Preamp thru a Lexicon PCM 96 ( an MX400 works ok too )into one channel of the board, then the dry steel (out of the Lemay) into a second channel on the board, then in the DAW I create an aux channel and combine the two. You could do the same on the board (analog) and record that signal.
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Direct into the Hi-Z input of my Roland Quad-Capture, then USB into the laptop/Pro Tools.
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Larry Bressington wrote:1) Do you Mic an amp? If not;

2)What do you use to play through ''before'' the Console?
Walker stereo steel pre amp recorded dry into a Line 6 UX 2, then into my laptop.
I use Sonar X2 Producer to record , add FX ...and a lot of editing. ;)

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I've had good luck and sound with either Boss or Digitech guitar processors. You go for the cleanest amp settings in the device and then add effects to your liking. A little delay and reverb most times you need to roll off highs and increase the lows building a patch that sounds like your steel amp. I can make a decent patch in most cases in just a few minutes working with one of those processors. The POD series stuff takes more work to make sound like a steel amp but can get good results too. If I have to pick a favorite I would have to say BOSS
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Post by Rick Schacter »

John Gould wrote: The POD series stuff takes more work to make sound like a steel amp but can get good results too.
I agree.

The Pod Farm software that comes with the UX2 works o.k. for pedal steel.

It's GREAT for 6 string guitar though.

Some of the pre-amp models in the software work pretty good for vocals and acoustic intruments too.

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Shobud > VP L-120 > Sarno V8 > MBoxPro > ProTools 10

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Post by Chris Schlotzhauer »

The POD series stuff takes more work to make sound like a steel amp but can get good results too.
I use the same patch (blackface) on my POD xt to record as I do live.
I only have to make sure the output is set to direct in or combo amp.
After that, just a few level tweeks, and hit record.
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Keith Davidson
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Post by Keith Davidson »

STEEL - HILTON VP - LINE 6 POD HD - MG24/14 MIXER - SONAR X2

Same set up that I use on stage but with a different mixer, wouldn't want to carry around the 24 channel....lol
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Post by Paul E. Brennan »

For the last session I did the engineer put me straight into the AD converter. Then he put a VST plugin in the steel track's effects. The plug-in was Kuassa Vermillion. I'm not sure what the amp and speaker cab models were. It sounded very good to me. With these VST plug-ins improving all the time there will soon be very little point in mic'ing an amp or using a valve pre-amp, pod, etc. Maybe we've already reached that point.
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Valve Pre AMP

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Paul your take on how great the VST plug ins are and how the recording world we be backing away from Valve Pre's can not be more wrong. Yes VST are great but hard ware mic pres and the likes are growing more and more each day. More and more recording studio are going back to the way it was. Most studios today have both, digital and analog. There is a place for both in a studio. There will never be a time when analog equipment will be sold for a solely digital recording world. Your biggest and the best recording studios in the world have both.

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Post by John Macy »

I just added the Brad Sarno V8 Octal pre into my arsenal, and just love it...I used a Mesa Boogie Studio Pre till now, but it's the Sarno from here on out...compact, too!
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Daryl Thisdelle
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Valve Recording Pre

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One of my mic pres is the DW FEARN VT-2. Going direct into that is like walking out on a plank 100 feet into the Grand Canyon 200 ft up in the air. This valve pre is revered as one of the best in the recording industry. When you have equipment like this it is easy to understand how beautiful the sound you can have. The cost is up there though. But way worth it when you hear what it puts out.

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Record dry==>Sarno Black Box==>Interface==>DAW

The producer & engineer take it from there.

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