Oahu squareneck tone question
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Scott Wagner
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Oahu squareneck tone question
I recently bought a beat up old Oahu squareneck to play when I don't want to plug in. The guy I bought it from had a luthier install a tall nut and fix some cracks, so it's structurally okay. The original bridge was replaced (a long time ago, it looks like) with a wood bridge with a very thin brass saddle slotted into it. The tone of the guitar sounds kind of harsh and jangly - could this be partly a result of the brass saddle, or is that just the way these guitars sound? I could replace the brass with bone but would have to make a new slot in the bridge, and I'm reluctant to take that step if there is no likelihood of improvement. Any of you Oahu owners care to comment? I would greatly appreciate your input. Thank you!
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D Schubert
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Re: Oahu squareneck tone question
I've had two -- old student model guitar, metal bridge, Grover extension nut over ebonized wood, mended cracks -- and that's a pretty good description of how they sound. Okay for practice, not a great "jam session" sound. I kept one, sounds a lot better with Fishman Rare Earth Humbucker pickup & plugged in.
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Stanislav Paskalev
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Re: Oahu squareneck tone question
You can try jamming in a piece of wood (e.g. a cylindrical dowel or even a bamboo chopstick) between the bronze saddle and the strings as a test before making a permanent replacement.
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Andy Volk
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Re: Oahu squareneck tone question
I've heard high-end Oahu "teacher" models that both look very good and sound fine acoustically. I bought a 30s Oahu student model this Summer with an integrated plastic, bolt-on bridge. Its acoustic sound is surprisingly loud, with a 10-12 second sustain. The "naked" tone is a tad harsh with a strong fundamental and not a lot of harmonics. I've had an LR Bags M-1 PU for years and always worried about damage taking it in and out of my high-end Weissenborns so I had it permanently installed in the Oahu and now, through my Fender Super champ, it sounds great with addition of a bit of reverb, vibrato, etc.
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D Schubert
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Re: Oahu squareneck tone question
Andy, my Oahu guitar looks a lot like yours (including the cracks) but I'm pretty sure that my pyramid bridge is metal. Some of the black finish is scraped away and that's what's underneath. A magnet won't stick to it, so I'm assuming it's a cast aluminum. Different year of manufacture? Other?
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Glenn Wilde
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Re: Oahu squareneck tone question
Most of the student Oahus I've had had the aluminum one piece bridge, and had that quiet compressed sound, they made much better electrics. Oahu sourced those from a few different builders, Harmony, Regal, Kay and Oscar Schmidt are the usual suspects, the one I have now is a Regal most likely and has a traditional wood, pin bridge, it's the best sounding one I've had.
The better made mahogany models are worlds apart though, they are professional instruments.
The better made mahogany models are worlds apart though, they are professional instruments.
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Scott Wagner
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Re: Oahu squareneck tone question
Thanks so much for your replies. I love this forum - I am amazed at the level of experience and the sharing spirit that manifest here. Such a wonderful resource and tribe of steelers, a real boost to my learning journey. Thanks to all of you!
I decided to go ahead and replace the brass "saddle" (more like fret wire) since it created a concave in the string level. I made a new slot in the wood bridge and inserted a downsized bone saddle. I think it does tame some of the harshness and add body to the sound (unless I am just wanting it to be so, since I made the effort.) It's not a huge difference, but I'm glad I did it.
I decided to go ahead and replace the brass "saddle" (more like fret wire) since it created a concave in the string level. I made a new slot in the wood bridge and inserted a downsized bone saddle. I think it does tame some of the harshness and add body to the sound (unless I am just wanting it to be so, since I made the effort.) It's not a huge difference, but I'm glad I did it.